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THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Barket. Mr. Kopp, anything you would like to say on your behalf? THE DEFENDANT: Yes. Good morning, Judge. On October 23, Judge, in 1998 late at night
I shot Dr. Slepian.
Let me explain a little bit about why and how. In large measure it began really in 1980, THE COURT: Let me ask you to just move a little closer
to that microphone. Your voice is
dropping. THE DEFENDANT: All right. THE COURT: Would you stay close to the microphone and
I think we will all hear you. THE DEFENDANT: All right. In 1980, at To repeat this sentence, anyone who wants to understand what abortion is really about must see the body of a child first before they speak. To do this, all they need to do - - I know this may sound - - all they need to do is knock on the basement door of any large hospital and just keep asking persistently, and ultimately they will be shown a body of a child that's been killed from abortion. Like I was in my case, I was dragged into the morgue by an acquaintance who was what we say pro-abortion. We don't say pro-choice. But until you see something like this, basically you don't know what you are talking about, if I may say so. In 1987, perfectly
healthy and they walk out, the woman basically messed up for life and the
baby dead. A woman with polio in both legs was dragged, sobbing and pulling
back, to the door of the mill, where two nurses reached out, grabbed and
pulled her in. She was walking with calipers and braces on her. Any sidewalk
counselor in In 1985 in San Francisco Juvenile Hall I gave a standard speech about abortion to a room full of women inmates. I was so naive I did not realize I was talking to a roomful of juvenile prostitutes, three of whom were pregnant. They asked me after I gave my speech, do you mean to tell me I do not have to get an abortion if I do not want to? It turned out
all of these young women had been told they would only be let out of Juvenile
Hall if they got an abortion. From that day forward it is the policy of that
Juvenile Hall in If I can say, Judge, there is zero doubt in my mind any judge, any prosecutor, any investigator with the Border, if they did a little turning over of leads or whatever the expression is in Western New York, they will find the exact same thing happening here as in Juvenile Hall. It's only that abortionists can't be talked about, has a political side of it that it isn't worked. In 1983' also
at It was years
later I found out that the PRC forced abortion policies were instituted by,
how should I put this, people from the This following information, Judge, that I give, is not easy for me to talk about. I want to make it very clear that this information I'm about to give is not why I shot Dr. Slepian. However, it does explain how I went from someone who had let's say an intellectual understanding of an abortion, well, an intellectual understanding of abortion, to someone who had a much stronger feeling about what abortion really represents in the United States. Also, for the record, this includes a statement from Dr. Slepian. I had no knowledge of this statement of Dr. Slepian before 1998 but it came out since then. It jibes with what I'm about to explain. But the majority of this information, excepting what Dr. Slepian said, I did learn in the middle and early eighties and it, as I say, made me become much more committed. In 1931 there
was a man named Harry Laughlin who proposed a Model Eugenical
Sterilization Law in Margaret Sanger's magazine, Birth Control Review. Sanger
is a founder of the Planned Parenthood. You might know her. She is also from
Upstate New York. I won't blame her on This sterilization law proposed by Mr. Laughlin was directly adopted by Adolph Hitler. What a funny thing to think, Judge, that Hitler's own thoughts about how to deal with a race that he didn't like, Polish people, Jewish people, homosexuals, Gypsies or what we will say, relations, the actual technique of dealing with this was sharpened by someone from the United States of America. This policy of eugenical sterilization carried out by Hitler was added to by a policy of sterilizing Jewish women without killing them with a technique involving x-rays to the ovaries. This is covered really well in a book called QB VII by Leon Uris. I can't tell you how much I recommend that book. It connects sterilization, abortion and ultimately the final solution. Hitler - - because basically he became impatient with the rate of abortion for dealing with the problem that he had. He didn't like Polish women, didn't like Jewish people bumping along slowly, not fast enough, so he moved to gas chambers. Here is another quote. It appeared in the early 30's and I learned of it in the early eighties. Quote: In view of the large families of the native population - - now this phrase, native population, means Polish, Gypsies or Romanians and Jewish people, bear in mind that in view of the large families of the native population, it could only suit us if girls and women there, in that native population, had as many abortions as possible. We could not possibly have the slightest interest in increasing the non-German population. This is a quote from Adolph Hitler. Actually, a catalyst, a synergism which took place between what otherwise was Hitler's loathing for Jewish people, Polish people, and the American input which was technique - - the technique of R16Margaret Sanger who was possessed - - well, I'll get to Margaret Sanger in a second here. Here is
another quote. This one came out in 1939, only one year after open
hostilities against Jewish people in This is a quote from Margaret Sanger. We find the quote in a book called Margaret Sanger, Father of Modern Society. Margaret Sanger said other things. She said. Judge, at that time same time - - and I could talk a lot about this - - we want to create a nation of thoroughbreds. That was her main phrase. We want more children from the fit and less children from the unfit. Obviously, Judge, she agreed perfectly with B. 14Hitler about the notion of a master race. What she m 15contributed, that Hitler didn't, was technique. Now, the next quote, your Honor, I will make very clear, I didn't find out until 2002. It comes from the niece of Dr. Slepian. And also, before I say this quote. Judge, in the 1980's there was a film made about abortion called Matter of Choice, very influential to me, very open-minded, walked around, interviewed everyone. Showed a filming of an abortion. There was another film made at the same time showing a forced abortion where a woman at the last minute wants to jump up on the table, very common thing, and the nurse does a verbal slapping. You don't actually give someone anesthetic like novocaine or whatever, but you use your voice to get them sit down and shut up and stop. And this is very common for nurses to do at the last minute when B|8women, when they realize that they are passing a point of no return, jump up and they want to get up off the table and the nurse says stay down. You signed a piece of paper. You know this is the best thing for you and so forth. Women who have come out, men who have come out of the profession of killing children, they can corroborate all of this. Anyway, in
the movie Matter of Choice they interviewed this Dr. Allred in Judge, wouldn't it be nice to say that was a casual remark? That that slipped out and we wouldn't hold Dr. Slepian to that. Who knows what kind of remarks would just slip out? I say no, Judge, it's perfectly one hundred percent consistent with the racism and genocide that began with Margaret Sanger, took a little detour through Germany and wound up back again in Western New York in 1997, keeping the minority quotient manageable. Believe it or not. Judge, I considered keeping this statement out for fear that when I said this in a full courtroom there might be at least two thirds of the people that would silently consent without saying it out loud, Judge. Of course, Dr. Slepian had to kill lots of Black babies down at the abortion mill, red babies, Mexican babies. Black women today get twice as many abortions as non-black women per capita. There are twice as many abortion mills located in the inner city as elsewhere, and this is all part of Margaret Sanger's agenda. The greatest proof of forced abortion in the United States I saw with my own eyes, as I looked in the eyes of the women coming out of abortion mills weeping, sobbing, bereft, scarred in body and mind, destined for endless drug and psychotherapy treatments, perhaps committing suicide. They are brainwashed, browbeaten and bullied into abortions, usually by men. These are everyday forced abortions. There is a sad gray area between forced and unforced abortions. As a reference there is a book called Aborted Women: Silent No More by a man named David C. Reardon. Just a little estimate on my part, Judge, twenty years experience meeting hundreds of women sitting down and talking with them before abortions and also I would roughly guess half of the abortions are all forced of some kind, even if it's just a boyfriend, parents, whatever. Is there any doubt, Judge, that unborn children are human beings? Prosecution presented four witnesses in that stipulated trial who were biologists, three MDs and one DNA biologist. All competent to testify that unborn children were not human beings, if such a thing is possible, but none of them did. Why would the prosecution pass up its chance to make its case? He could have easily shown that abortion is just a political matter and not a matter of murder, by having one of these scientific experts testify that unborn children were not human beings. But he did not. That's because he could not. No one can testify to this. There are thousands of members of the National Academy of Sciences who are experts in biology. Prosecution had four and one-half years to find just one to testify to this point and he never did. He didn't because he could not. No one will ever make such a testimony. In fact, the opposite is true. Every day science produces more and more evidence that the unborn are human beings. I'm sure you have heard, Judge, all the pro-lifers, this litany of, indication that unborn children aren't human beings, like fingerprints, DNA, genome and heartbeat. I would only mention when I was in graduate school in 1980 there was a positive EEG demonstrated for babies of as young a gestational age of six weeks. That was twenty years ago. My point is, Judge, all abortions which take place these days, except for ones done illegally, meaning the ones that are done tacitly, also illegal in my opinion, all happen after six weeks. That means every baby. Judge, is my point, is conscious of what is happening to him or her during abortion. If I were to have the lower part of my body removed right now by being pulled into the intake of jet engine, which is what suction abortion is all about, I think I would be conscious of it. In the movie Silent Scream made by a former abortionist, supervised 200,000 abortions, shows this horrible picture of a baby screaming out loud unable to make any noise because there is no noise, but screaming and running to the other side of the womb, and the rest of it got sucked into this, what I will call a jet engine. I stated in the newspaper interview, that abortion is murder. No one has disproved it. No one has even so much offered one shred of evidence to refute it. The prosecution won't even say the word baby. Judge, I take it as proof. I said it in the newspaper article. The newspaper article came into the trial. The prosecution could have responded to the newspaper article in that regard. No response. It's proven. What does the
Church say about abortion? No one ever has the authority to destroy unborn
life. This is a statement by John Paul II in 1979 in Here is another quote from John Paul II, quote, abortion is death. It is the killing of an innocent creature. Another quote, whatever may be laid down by civil law in a matter of abortion, no one can ever obey a law which is in itself immoral, and such is the case of a law which would admit in principle the liciety of abortions, nor can one take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law or vote for it. Moreover, one may not collaborate in its application. Declaration on Abortion, Paul VI. Probably this last phrase. Judge, one may not collaborate in its application, I humbly submit to you that to prosecute someone who tries to use force against an abortionist, for the purpose of protecting unborn life, that person, the Legislature, Supreme Court, judge, prosecutor, law enforcement, FBI agent, detective, they are collaborating in the 6application of a law which admits, in principle the liciety of abortion. These babies are not dying of old age, Judge. Someone is tearing them to pieces. Someone is killing them. The people who do that killing require peace- Anyone who protects them is cooperating. And I can be accused of beating up on you over much, but I say the same thing about myself. Anyone who stands by, anyone who stands by - - here is another quote, abortion is killing of potential life. It is not pretty. It is not easy. This is a quote from Dr. Slepian, dot com article. The inner seed of that quote sounds almost like the Pope. What about the use of force to try and stop abortion? What does the Church say about that? St. Ambrose said quote, he who does not repel an injury to his fellow, if he is able to do so, is as much at fault as he who is able to, who commits the injury. That citation is in New Catholic Encyclopedia, page 593. St. Thomas Aquinas said the following: Stopping an act of aggression in defense of oneself or another must be with the moral certitude that harm will be inflicted upon that individual if force is not used. That's from section IIa-IIae q.64 art. Who is even suggesting Dr. Slepian was not going to work the next day if he was able? He had received a warning just the day before and he decided to ignore it. Many pro-lifers over many years begged him to stop. Doctors had been shot at for six years before 1998. Quote: The moral law of God does not unequivocally condemn the use of force to stop persons who seek to harm innocent life. The use of violence to protect human life from attack is not intrinsically immoral. Those who take up arms against abortionists cannot be simply condemned, nor are they guilty of murder, end quote. This was done by Bishop Austin Vaughan, V-A-U-G-H-A-N, Bishop of New York, Former Rector, New York Seminary. I would refer also to the New York State CPL. I have got written down here 245.45, but I don't think that's the right section anyway. MR. BARKET: It's not the right one. THE
DEFENDANT: All right. Anyway, there is a section in the law, I'm sure you are
familiar with it. This is me paraphrasing, force is
justified to protect a person from greater injury. The theory that supports
that I wanted to briefly describe, try to paint a word picture for you, Judge, of an abortion, suction abortion being like throwing a body into a jet engine. That's for the younger children. The older ones it doesn't work. They won't fit through the jet engine, so to speak, meaning the vacuum pump. They clog it up. They have to be pulled out one piece at a time. The first piece is always the lower leg. There is a doctor, there is actually a steady stream of doctors. Judge, who have left the profession and are beginning to describe to us what it's like. In his own way Dr. Slepian is giving us a glimpse of what he said. This one doctor said that when you reach inside a cervix with a polyp forceps and grab the femur and twist it, which you must do to dislocate it and snap it off, like you would snap off a turkey leg, he feels the baby fighting back. And as I told you before, there is a cortex in the brain, part of the brain. It's not just reflex. It's not just like, you know, a frog jumping or something. This human being inside is completely aware that he's being torn to pieces. The doctor said when I grab the leg and try to snap it off, the baby pulls back, tries to protect his leg from being snapped off. I feel an electric thrill which comes through the polyp forceps. Murder is bad enough. I mean this is a sort of sickness. By the way, the previous statement about force is justified, I have a list of people here that signed it. It's an interesting list, several priests. Most of these people are what I would call the pacifist side of the Pro-Life Movement. Many leaders of the Pro-Life Movement signed this. I was going to give sort of a thought exercise, Judge, along the lines of you don't need the Catholic Church to tell you that abortion is wrong. It's common sense. I could give you an example, suppose you are having a picnic at Delaware Park and owing to the sort of benign confusion of children running around and parents talking and this and that, you find yourself to be the closest person to a two year old girl who is just nearby. She's not your daughter. She's nobody you know at all. Her parents are say fifty yards away. A man comes out of the forest or whatever and begins to stab her, not your child. According to the law. Judge, of most of - - the logic of most of us in this culture, we think about abortion, well, it's not my kid. I'm not her parent. It's not my problem. The thing that provides the imperative for you to defend that child is not whether or not you are her father or not, it is the innocence, with respect to her attacker, which resides in the child herself. That explains what happens when the children come. We have a moral imperative to try and protect them. If a baby was one day old you certainly would rush to the defense of that child. In fact, you could be prosecuted for not doing it. Judge, I'm
sure you are familiar with the case in What if the baby was one day old? Of course you would rush to the defense of that child. What if the baby was due to be born tomorrow? In other words a couple of feet away from you, this picnic at Delaware Park is a woman who is nine months pregnant, due to be delivering any moment and a guy runs out of the woods and starts to stab her. Are you going to sit there and not do anything? Of course, Judge, you would rush to her defense and the defense of her child. This brings
up a case, a bizarre scenario that unfortunately shows up in the news from
time to time, has shown up in This would be
a great case for here. Except that in It's custo These
feelings, Judge, have to be held in balance though for the children that were killed by Dr. Slepian.
I estimated 25,000. That's my 5estimate based on how many hours maybe he
worked down at the mill and so forth. 25,000 is actually a conservative
estimate based on a thirteen year career of child killing. But more
importantly, I have to hold these feelings in balance with the concern I have
for the children that were about to be killed by Dr. Slepian
on This word avenge gets tossed out. It almost sounds like revenge. I'm not exactly sure what avenge means, but it's not relevant. The 25,000 children are not being revenged. That wasn't justified, shooting someone or even using force. That's between somebody else and God. The force becomes applied when you want to prevent a harm. That's what is in the New York Section. That's what is in St. Ambrose, Thomas Aquinas and so forth. Just to give you an impression, Judge, 25,000 is a number. Stalin said one death is a tragedy and a million is a statistic. You can fill this courtroom top to bottom, put the caskets, one casket for each child involved, fill this courtroom and one half of another courtroom. I made a little estimate. If we would have had a trial and so forth I would have loved to fill this courtroom with the caskets, have us all adjourn to another courtroom, fill that halfway with caskets and have everyone--Judge, jury, all of the witnesses--carry out a trial sitting on top of those caskets. That would be perspective. An extreme exaggeration of consideration for the safety of Dr. Slepian will always and only be done at the expense of the children. For all the debate in this matter the prosecution has no plan to protect the children or even consider them. Even if I failed at my goal to preserve Dr. Slepian's life, nonetheless, I would be the only one I know of in this case who even had a plan whereby at the end of the day both Dr. Slepian and his victim will still be alive. Who will advocate for the children? Who will take their position? Who will take, as a goal, that the children remain alive and that their mothers have bodies and mind that are not scarred with the violence of abortion? Why should
the safety of Dr. Slepian be put above the safety
of weak, vulnerable children, when Dr. Slepian had
every opportunity to stop killing, and the children had no opportunity to run
away from him. The first abortionist doctor was shot in 1992. Possibly many hundreds of doctors quietly left the B5field after that. Any doctor who remained in the field up to 1998, and to the present moment, was and is exposing himself to actual danger, no matter how he may resent it. If it were not so, why would the FBI have warned Dr. Slepian the very day he died. Yet Dr. Slepian refused to obey this warning and ostensibly many other warnings and instead he decided to continue to expose himself to danger. I'd remind the Court, these warnings specifically spoke of threats against residences, as opposed to commercial property. Just in passing here, I would like to talk ,about imminence, the notion of imminence, how it's connected with shooting someone in a residence versus an abortion mill. Imminence normally means to avoid the case where you shoot someone by anticipating who otherwise could have changed their mind and decided not to murder. What about a doctor who 5does 25,000 murders all in a row. This indicates a frame of mind. This indicates a relentlessness, a stubbornness. Something that's not prey to reconsideration. An abortionist doctor, twenty-four hours a day is either killing kids or rushing up from killing kids or he's preparing to go kill some more. Any point in that cycle constitutes technical imminence because we are talking about a form of serial murder. If I could talk for a moment about the details of what happened on October 23rd. I saw Dr. Slepian from behind, not from his side. If I had seen him from his side, with his chest backstopping his upper arm, shoulder I would have never fired that rifle. First of all it's a way of speaking for me, Judge. Very often I will say about myself I must be a dope or something like that. My only point about that was why not have a head shot, Judge? If my intention was to kill the guy flat out, why not shoot him in the head? I had a better shot, considering how restricted this angle was, shoot him in the head than shoot him anywhere else, so why not a head shot. That's all I meant. A half minute or so before I shot him, I saw Dr. Slepian make a motion with his left arm one-hundred percent consistent with that motion one makes when one opens and shuts the door of an eye-level, cabinet-mounted microwave. I saw him then step away, and as he did, I saw the characteristic electric turquoise neon color and shape of a digital clock display, such as we have all seen on a VCR. I assumed he had just put something in the microwave. Looking at the prosecution exhibits I now realize I was wrong in my assumption. Nevertheless, based on my assumption, I set up on the spot in the event Dr. Slepian were to return, to convert the vagaries of shooting at a moving target into the much simpler problem of shooting at a still target, the shoulder turn, the fact I saw it once, again, because he was going to open the microwave you have to wait for the shoulder to come in that crossed area and it would be stationary. To repeat that, nevertheless, based on my assumption, I set up on the spot in the event Dr. Slepian would return. In a few moments he did and he repeated the motion, opening an eye-level microwave or cabinet. I shot at his arm and shoulder area at the moment when his arm and shoulder were extended in the eye-level microwave opening motion and his arm had come to rest in that position. Dr. Slepian's back was facing me and his arm was extended when I shot. The prosecution has admitted twice and I want to say, your Lordship, the prosecution has admitted twice both in trial and in the statement provided that it is impossible to see the center of the kitchen from the tree where I shot Dr. Slepian. As I recall, I wanted to be correct on this, it's also impossible to see the center of the kitchen from anywhere whatsoever in the woods. It would take a long while to explain it, but it has to do with, I think, as I recall, subtle variations in elevation of the floor of the woods, back fence, the architectural layout of the buildings, fairly complicated situation with the sunroof windows and doors and all this kind of stuff. As I say, Judge, it is impossible to see the center of the room from the tree where I shot Dr. Slepian. I'm even suggesting it's impossible to see the center of the room from anywhere in the woods. If I had known there was anyone around besides Dr. Slepian I would never ever have shot. If I could just make this point also, Judge, there is a thousand ways to kill somebody if that's what you are trying to do. You can blow up a car. Shoot them in the head. You can aim a gun at them and do a sort of Rambo thing where you pull the trigger and empty the magazine at them, but - - I hate to say this, but leaving aside moral considerations, obviously, in a sense it's easy to kill someone if that's your goal, run them over with a car, put nicotine acid on their steering wheel. There is any number of ways you can do it. To injure someone in such a way that they have a chance to survive along with the kids, this is much trickier. That takes the advanced planning, months of work, takes figuring things out. That takes working on accuracy. My intention was to save children about to be murdered by Dr. Slepian. Any abortionist still murdering children in 1998, or 2003 for that matter, indicates a level of stubbornness which calls for strong effort to protect children. The goal of protecting children is not symbolic. Child protection must have actual success in mind, the success of protecting actual children. It's hard to describe in words, your Honor. Let's just say that the so-called gun hole was a slanting long hole which was designed in such a way that you could slide the weapon in and out of it without digging anything. It slanted, and the opening of the hole was very close to the surface of the ground, in such a way that there was only buried maybe a half of a cubic foot there of open area, and if you drop in a rock or a couple of rocks or a couple of logs or something and over that throw a handful of earth or throw a big handful of leaves you have covered up the hole. The hole was made by cutting a sonotube by length. A sonotube is one that extends--Judge, you have seen it a million times and may not know what it's called. In a parking structure you have a pillar there supporting higher layers of a parking structure. It's a characteristic circling around, helix shape of a precast cardboard form into which they pour the concrete. That's called a sonotube. The thing I used to H3create this hole was a sonotube maybe a foot in diameter. THE REPORTER: Would you please repeat that? THE COURT: That phrase you dropped your voice. THE DEFENDANT: Sorry, Judge. THE COURT: Okay. THE DEFENDANT: The hole that the gun was in was created by a sonotube which had been sliced lengthwise. And that was used to hold the dirt over the hole. The weapon was put into the vinyl holster. The vinyl holster was made out of material that was used to waterproof the underlayment for odd-shaped or custom-sized shower pans, very thin vinyl. It takes a special adhesive to bind it to itself to make it into a carbine holster shape. I did all this, Judge, so that if you don't know when you are going to get a good shot, if you want to kill someone you go down to the office and you kill them, one, to confirm the physical identity of Dr. Slepian, and doing that in such a way without talking with anyone in Western New York. It's a tricky business. One of the
ways I made sure of it was to go down to where his private practice was,
where his car was parked with the vanity plate on it, saw him walk out and
connected the face with the vanity plate and so forth. This was part of the
process to make certain I got the right guy. Very easy to kill him there. I
would say utterly impossible to injure him with any hope of him surviving.
And I also would have been shooting across Like I said if you don't care about, if you don't care about the doctor, just want to kill him, it's an easy business. The point of all that was to say that, Judge, if you want to look for the shot where someone is very, very still and in a room by themself, it may take several nights to find that shot if you are looking for - - several early mornings, if you are looking into a residence. So I wanted to have a holster so I could keep the weapon in the woods and return to it without caring it in and out. I admit to you openly, the purpose of not carrying it up and down the streets of the neighborhood is not just to avoid frightening people, it's to avoid getting caught. If I am in the position to help a child I am not obliged to turn myself in, expose myself to people who want to arrest me. Let them try to save the children if they don't like that. That's all I would say, Judge. On the nights when I was ready to fire, if I saw a good shot, I parked several miles away and bicycled to the woods. I hid the bike in an evergreen tree next to the tennis court next to the woods, tennis court being west of the woods, if i recall correctly. I pulled the rifle plus the holster out of the gun hole. I left the holster nearby after I took that off. Every night when I was unstationed, I put the rifle back to keep it dry and avoid carrying it around. After I shot poor Dr. Slepian I put the gun in the hole to keep it from being found. This took no time because the opening of the hole, as I was saying a minute ago, was inclined in such a way you didn't have to dig and, you know, dig the hole, the entire hole. I don't doubt for a minute the complexity or sophistication of these tree markings and the trigonometry and all that. I simply have no clue how they got there and who put them there. I never saw them. I'm utterly clueless about all this. I located the gun hole easily myself because it was under a very characteristic bush, and I would probe around under the leaves and dust until I found the rocks that blocked the inclined opening of the gun hole. I never had any problems finding the weapon that way. The western
boundary of the woods behind the Slepian house is
the only boundary without a ence.
It's also next to the gun hole. That's how I left the woods. Between the
cul-de-sac there and tennis court there at the western boundary there is an
evergreen with branches covering the ground. That's where I hid this After I
shot Dr. Slepian I pushed the bicycle through the
unfenced edge between the tennis court and adjoining property of that A few doors down I passed a dozen or so young people engaging in some sort of spontaneous party or meeting in the middle of the street. I'm not sure how it's described, Judge. The party seemed to be connected with the house on the west side of that north/south street. Probably a quarter mile north of this. Judge, another street - - I don't know the names of any of these streets, but there is a street that runs east/west, we are talking roughly northwest of Dr. Slepian's house there is a boulevard stop that's connected with what I would indicate to you as a T intersection. On October 20, while establishing the bicycle escape route I ran that boulevard stop in front of 0a police cruiser. I u-turned and left the area immediately with the cruiser following behind me. I expected to be pulled over and ticketed. I never drove over twenty-five miles an hour. The cruiser followed me, after many turns and after a slow-speed pursuit of a mile or two, he ceased following me. If he had ticketed me I doubt I would have ever shot Dr. Slepian. North of the
toll road and south of Dr. Slepian's neighborhood
there is an east/west road, I would say a major road that crosses I said before I did not want to get the motel people in trouble, but if there is a suspicion falling on someone in the form of a suggestion that I stayed at a private residence or in fact anyone assisting me in this incident, then I'll be happy to say where the motel is. I'm saying it now, I don't know the name and address. I'm not certain of the streets. I could describe it in great detail. It has a driveway perpendicular to that east/west road. There is a residence, an office to the left. Straight ahead on the back line of the property is a dozen single-storied motel rooms. On the back left corner of the property is another building of some sort. I stayed in the rooms, the last one on the left for most of the time. The man who rented me the room was the son-in-law of the East Indian couple who owned the motel. He was similar to me in general body type, coloring, except to say he was slightly thinner, shorter and more fine in feature than I am. He mentioned that he was recently, had been in the military as of fall of ’98. I wouldn't be
able to remember the alias I used checking into that motel until I saw a
registration card. I'll be happy to give more details and cooperate with the
police. I left the area on the main road to I started - -
saddest day of my life. In the middle of the day at a truck stop I saw video footage,
no sound track, video footage showed police cruisers and yellow crime scene
tape. I saw that, Judge, this whole thing took me enough by surprise that I
saw that. I saw the name And that
night, it was that night I was staying at a hotel/motel in I abandoned
my bicycle in a small patch of land behind a house next to the strip mall. I
got in my car which I left at the strip mall and I left the area. I returned
to my motel room and cleared it out and left the area. After I found out that
Dr. Slepian had died, I returned to Buffalo that
following Sunday night, went back to my motel room and did some further cleaning
and returned to I wish I had not permitted, the FBI
framed me stuff to go forward when I was in I do apologize, however, for my fellow pro-lifers. I do not apologize to the FBI or law enforcement or the District Attorney. They are intent on promoting and protecting the murder of children. They are the enemies of children and therefore they are my natural enemies. Someone wants to protect the mass murderers. They can provide electricity to run suction pumps, to flush their children down after they run them through garbage disposals. They need help. Returning to
law enforcement, I do not owe them any straightforward answer any more than
the Gestapo a straight answer when the Gestapo came up with the Jewish people
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said from On the
subject of deception in general, during the Second World War the Another example, the Hebrew midwives disobeyed Pharaoh when he told them to kill the male Hebrew children. When the King asked them why they let the boys live, the midwives deceived the King, and told him a story. The mother of Moses hid Moses from Egyptian government officials because she was afraid they would kill him. Where would we be, Judge, if the mother of Moses had not hid him and deceived the Pharaoh and disobeyed him? Dietrich Bonhoeffer was so deceptive he used to give the Siegheil salute when Hitler went by in the staff car. Bonhoeffer hated to do this. It made his skin crawl and
he felt like he was betraying his faith. And yet he did it so he could keep
smuggling Jewish people. The daughter of one of these is living in Matthew 2:14,
the Blessed Virgin Mary and Perhaps
according to the theory of the prosecution, I have been
accused of being deceptive in the way in which I carried out the shooting.
This is disingenuous. Every culture and every state, Christian,
pre-Christian, and non-Christian has recognized the moral liciety
of acting deceptively in order to achieve a morally good goal. The Because of the scarcity of people willing to defend children, and because of the hostility of the State to those who defend them, anyone in my position must keep his activities as secret as possible. Any objection to withholding of parts of the truth for the purpose of saving children as a deception, is based on the underlying implicit presupposition that children are not worth protecting. Anyone who starts with this murderous presupposition will never see the necessity of deception to save lives in a culture of death. The Holy
Father has called this, he's called our culture here
the culture of death. As in ancient I don't merely say this is another Holocaust, your Honor. This is a continuation of the same one. Even though the Holocaust, Second World War, genocide, Jewish people was utterly unique because it involved the extermination of Jewish people. In this sentencing the subject of cowardice has come up. Just so you know. Judge, I have no pretension about any virtue on my own part. I am chief of sinners. The only hope I have of arriving in Heaven will be by the mercy of Jesus Christ. I have probably committed every sin in the book. But when it comes to Dr. Slepian, I most assuredly have not committed the sin, or the crime of murder and this is exactly how the word "lo tirzach" is sometimes translated in Exodus 20 in my TEV with the imprimatur of Cardinal Keeler. The morality of holding back part of the truth to prudently assist someone in danger as endorsed by St. Thomas Aquinas, I have already spoken of. But what about cowardice? It's been suggested outside this courtroom that I should have challenged Dr. Slepian to a duel. More honorable, right? Less cowardly? Who knows if that would end up with a sting operation, Judge. Suppose this was a real duel, Judge. This is liberty I can't take. If my life were the only one at stake, I wouldn't object to this. But I do not have the luxury of accommodating a puerile motion of chivalry in the matter of the defending a child's life. I must do whatever I can to help that child. It is hardly chivalry to throw a child no bigger than a field mouse into the inside of a jet engine. His claim of cowardice is just one of many bizarre distractions from the main act of child murder. Anyone who brins the claim of cowardice is desperately looking for any distraction from the ultimate cowardice; that of a full grown man tossing a four-inch child into a jet intake. I have met with doctors face to face, more than once, to appeal to them to stop. This has met with moderate success. AS I said before, this would not work in 2003 with any of the doctors still in the business of murder. For eleven years they know the risk and still murder. I have talked to doctors. I have operated counseling centers, spoke with schools, moms, raised money, rescues. I have separated murderers from their weapons of mass destruction. I have prayed. I have encouraged young mothers to have their kids, and thank God, many did. Through it all I have detected a strong steak of stubbornness that defies and outstrips any notion of choice, freedom or even genocide. Abortion has
a supernaturally wicked dynamic of its own which has no nothing to do with
women's rights. I hate to mention this, Judge, an infernal supernaturality such as the bizarre case in That is part of the real reason Dr. Slepian would not stop, a man who believes there are too many poor people vegetating and too many old people vegetating. This, combined with racism/genocide, is classic Albigensianism. I hope the professional baby killing industry will not be too offended when I say to them they are merely pawns in a much bigger choice. I have always
said, Judge, show me. I'm from Show me something more forthright, more dignified, more out in the open, more chivalrous, more nice, more pleasant, more appealing to politeness, which actually saves children. Stop killing and I will be there in the front row. But as long as the wicked dark night of killing, anytime killing, everywhere killing, on schedule killing for any reason, killing for no reason continues, count me in with the Corrie Ten Booms, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Scarlet and the Black priests, St. Joseph to Egypt by night, the Hebrew midwives and the Magis who function with disobedience, defiance, resistance and half truth, all to save the lives of those who are helpless and murdered. It must be easy to speak of gentleness, honesty, glasnost, peace and law and order when one is involved in the practice of protecting, enabling, enforcing, permitting and facilitating systematic murder of people the size of a field mouse. Murder isn't so easy. It is custo Nevertheless, we know in the Pro-Life movement from thirty years experience, sidewalk counseling, that if a woman can't keep her first appointment to abort, about one in five of them will not make it. They will never make a second appointment. It's just too painful. An example of this was given in the newspaper last fall, under the precise circumstances, her child is now ten years old. The four or
five children who are alive today because Dr. Slepian
was unable to kill on 5Saturday, October 24th, are now almost four years old,
speaking. Two or three of them are
black. They are all beautiful, happy, human lives. They are walking the
streets of Whether I get
released or not, there is still concern for the neighborhood Dr. Slepian lived in. Here is
another subject of the future. Criticism
has been made of the use of force against a mass murderer when he is at his
home. It was even suggested, admittedly a hypothetical suggestion, to use
force to stop a mass murderer as he is about to walk into an abortion mill.
We covered this in the one earlier subject of how I had a chance to shoot Dr.
Slepian when he was coming out of his private practice.
I think it's How about using force against a mass murderer when he's driving his car, playing golf, going to see a movie? What about the bystanders then? Is anyone ever safe when they are standing next to a mass murderer we know? What about the rest of us? What about the mass murderer himself? Does he have an expectation of safety when he is still murdering children? No doubt I will be accused of terrorism myself by saying this, especially by those who make a living from the blood of innocent children. They are always looking for any reason at all stall, to distract attention away from abortion. What is terrorism? Terrorism is the indiscriminate force against large numbers of innocent people. Dr. Slepian killed 25,000 children or more, black, white, girl babies, boy babies, rich, poor, Hispanic, eight weeks old, nineteen weeks and everything in the middle. I can't possibly think of a more perfect definition of indiscriminate killing of large numbers of innocent people. As for a
terrorist goal beyond the murders themselves, we know that the goal was,
quote, part and parcel of keeping this minority quotient manageable. In Dr. Slepian's own words, in a direct line of tradition from
Margaret Sanger who wanted to exterminate the Black race entirely, and Adolf Hitler, who wanted to exterminate the Jewish people
entirely. Abortion is terrorism, by scale and by
the indiscriminateness of its attack on the weak, helpless and innocent.
Force against doctors, by contrast, is very specific, limited, and targets a preeminently non-innocent, guilty person, always with the goal of saving innocent human life. So who is the terrorist? This next
thing I wanted to say, Judge. I am certain I will be misunderstood but I will
say it anyway. I will preface it with a little caveat that saying this is
just an observation. I'm telling you now, my days of trying to save children
are quite obviously over. But I can't help but observe the statistical study
that was sent to me here which said that in 1990 there were 2300 abortionists
doing abortions in the We are
obligated to defend innocent life, not score political points by murder or
killing. Any mass murderer who is left still doing abortions, if you are
concerned for your safety, then quit. Do
you want to be the last abortionist doing abortions in American? Things have been slowing in the last few
years except for the fatality that I heard about in Judge, even
beyond the New York State Legislature, it is the Supreme Court that's turning
the crank on this. In '73 there were thirty-seven states that had laws
against abortion, even the law in Supreme Court, I will not kneel and worship before them. I defy them, Judge. I defy anyone who carries out the murderous plans and to this defiance, resistance, I add half truth to half truth. I add nighttime operation to nighttime operation. I add no promise of safety to murderers to no promise of safety to murderers. I add no promise of sabotage to no promise of sabotage. In the blink of an eye, as God measures time, we wil1 all be before our Maker, no matter how we perceive him and He will ask us what we did or did not do during this multinational orgy of feasting on the blood of our children. I will be severely called to task myself. But I dare say not for the act or resisting the serial murdering racism and genocide of Dr. Slepian and doing so, resistance by proportionate force to repel that danger. I have never been sentenced, Judge, without a reference to the Supreme Court. And also, the oath of the Court to uphold the law. When this Court took an oath it was not an oath to protect child murderers. It was not an oath to participate in the murder of children. It was an oath to uphold the law, which itself has only one purpose, to uphold justice and certainly includes protecting the innocent. Abortionists
need protection to save harmless children? Anyone who provides protection to
mass murderers, whether under the color of law or not, is participating in a
murder. And personally, Judge, I'm sitting right next to you, twenty years I
have walked up and down the streets of America walking by these abortion
mills, so personally I'm hardly trying to criticize myself or you, but in
your capacity as Judge, my point is, Judge, it's no use invoking your oath.
It's no use talking about the Supreme Court.
Quote: If the laws of the state are manifestly at variance with the
Divine Law, then to resist becomes a positive duty, to obey a crime. That was
in something NCA. John Paul II said, quote: It is the task of the church to
reaffirm that abortion is death. It is the killing of an innocent creature.
Consequently, the Church considers all legislation in favor of abortion as a serious
offense against pri Paul the VI, quote: Whatever may be laid down by civil law in the matter of abortion, one can never obey a law which is in itself immoral, and such is the case of a law which would admit in principle the liceity of abortion. Nor can one take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law or vote for it. Moreover, one may not collaborate in its application. Let me briefly suggest another way to look at this. Judge. If the Supreme Court ruled tomorrow that black people show up down at the local train station with an 0-ring around their neck, bring a lunch, you are going for a long ride, going back to Mississippi, sorry, the Supreme Court changes its mind again - - would you enforce that law? Would you throw Harriet Tubman in jail for trying to smuggle these slaves? I suppose if the Supreme Court ruled tomorrow that Jewish people must report to the closest train station wearing the Star of David, bring a lunch, wear a coat, you are going for a ride, would you enforce that law. Judge? Permit me to answer that question for you. You would not. You would try any means at your disposal to avoid cooperating with such a law. You could dismiss the charges. You could rule for the defendant who is accused of smuggling Jewish people to safety. You would throw out a conviction. If all else failed, at minimum you could recuse yourself. As far as the
present moment, Judge, not just a penalty, you can say you are going to think
about this some more, think about it for another day or two, hear more
arguments. I'm not ashamed to say we could bring in experts to testify about
the true position of the Catholic Church. That's all possible. Judge, as far
as I am concerned. You and I would have no sympathy for a Judge sitting in
your spot in Nazi Germany when they sentence Dietrich Bonhoeffer
to death for trying to smuggle people out of So in this case, Judge, you would disobey the Supreme Court. You would disobey the Supreme Court based on what they decided. You would not be able to say, you know, Mr. Kopp, you make a good point. I have even had judges tell me in court I'm sympathetic to your position but they bring in the Supreme Court, my hands are tied based on the content of the Supreme Court decision such as cooperating with the extermination, extinction, genocide of Jewish people. Black people, whoever it is, you get off. But when it comes to the known proof, as far as I'm concerned, because no one disproved it, murdering the children, suddenly everything is different, suddenly your hands are tied. You have to carry out your oath. I'm suggesting the Supreme Court is not involved. You are making a content-based decision. It's not just that it is the Supreme Court. You yourself have analyzed, and in a way, Judge, I don't mind my saying this, I feel sorry for you because before this case came along you yourself could easily say what so many Americans say: Well, gee, I am not thrilled with the idea of abortion. From what I understand of it it seems like a pretty sick business. Anyone I love I wouldn't want to get an abortion. Well, then
you say this is a pluralistic society, that's their thing. You cannot take
that position, not after this case, Judge, not with this case. Not when I am
convicted. Then it's different. They must have protection. How long could the
death camps operate in May I suggest
that it is not so. A Judge in As I said
before, this is the continuation of the Holocaust. It didn't stop in '45. It
went underground and resurfaced once again and started in I am not aware of any conspiracy to use force to save children. My younger brothers and sisters in the movement may discover that independent simultaneous operation is the best way to save children. In any event, Judge, there are worse things than life in general. Jail, jail is not so bad, nowhere near as bad as being out of custody and constantly wondering what else could be done for the babies. I know many of my pro-lifers would not want to do what I have done. Fine. I understand. But it is still possibly to cut a hole in the fence surrounding the death camps so that a few babies can escape. It is still possible to derail the trains going into the camps. Here is a quote from the Bible, your Honor. These are the dying words of Moses. Moses only lived to such an age where he could even speak because his own mother disobeyed the Pharaoh and lied and then she hid him and participated in deception about what his Hebrew heritage was. Quote:
"I am now giving you the choice of life and death, between God's
blessing and God's curse, and I call Heaven and Earth to witness the choice
you make. Now choose life. Love the Lord your God. Obey Him and be faithful
to Him and you and your descendants will live long in the land He promised to
give your ancestors, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Suffer little children to come
unto me and hinder them not for of such is the Truly I say to you scandal is bound to come but whosoever causes the least scandal to one of these, the least of My brethren, it would be better if a millstone were tied around his neck and be thrown into the deepest abyss." Let me paraphrase this last quote, your Honor. Here is what Jesus is saying is bound to come, but whoever causes the least scandal it would be better if a millstone were tied to his neck and I'll paraphrase that for myself, keep your hands off the children. That's its. Keep your hands off the children. Another quote from our Lord: "If you do not become like one of these" - - meaning children - -"you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven." To summarize. Judge: No. 1. Choice for mothers is sometimes nonexistent when its comes to abortion and in any vent it never exists at all for children. No. 2. Most of us have no idea what abortion is about. It is only a political talking point to them, unlike Dr. Slepian and myself. They need to see the bodies of the dead children, and talk to their mothers, to be better informed. No. 3.
Classic Christian moral theology gives ample witness to fact that force is justified,
and even obligatory to save lives of helpless, innocent children. The
intention is to help children, not harm anyone. We all agree to this, for our
own born children. No. 4. Dr. Slepian's
safety, while important, did not outweigh the safety of children he was about
to murder. The same is true of the few doctors remaining who still murder
children despite eleven years now of strong warnings. No. 5. I intended to wound Dr. Slepian only. I was unaware of anyone else in the room with him. No. 6.
Deception is required to save lives in a culture of death. Those who kill
children and those who protect those who kill children, even if under color
of false law, are the ones who bring about circumstances where deception is
required, just as in Nazi Germany, and under Herod and Pharaoh. No. 7. As I said before, I bicycled
several miles from the scene after I shot Dr. Slepian,
and I drove away in a car parked near No. 8. I will happily promise never to use force again as soon as this country demonstrates it has stopped child killing. No. 9. Any jurisdiction which permits a mass murderer to live within their borders is not a safe haven for me. No. 10. Any place, either a residence or a commercial property with a mass murderer, presents a danger to people nearby, unfortunately. In the event that someone decides to protect the intended victims of the murderer. No. 11. The number of doctors left to murder children is dwindling rapidly. I strongly recommend that young doctors seek employment elsewhere. They will still make a perfectly decent living. No. 12. It's not too late to cut a few holes in the fences surrounding the death camps to let a few babies crawl to freedom. We can still derail some trains. My younger brothers and sisters in the movement soon realize that by God's grace, if they don't do it, it won't get done. No. 13. Safety and security come from Heaven. I do not see myself how God can bless a country which gives safe haven to child murderers, or to the practice of child murder. But even now He stands ready to forgive, if we will turn away from child murder. It's never too late to seek forgiveness, but first we must turn away from child murder. He will enable us to do that, if we ask Him to. Thank you, your Honor. THE COURT: Well, I guess we have heard a great deal of information this morning. And as some of you may know, I'm not generally inclined to make speeches at sentencing and I don't give sermons to defendants. You are not going to hear a speech or a sermon, obviously. Nevertheless, I guess I have to stay a few things and I feel compelled to do so. First, although it seems rather obvious, we recognize the loss to the Slepian family, in particular Mrs. Slepian and her boys. And the letters I have received with regard to this sentencing proceeding indicated to me the depth of the loss that has been suffered and the fact that there are many in the community who share your grief. Although it's been mentioned I think on numerous occasions by the District Attorney, Frank Clark as well as Mr. Marusak, in the media and as well as some comments made here earlier today by Mr. Marusak, it should be noted here that law enforcement has done an exemplary job. Mr. Barket has asked me to admonish them. I think the reverse
is probably true. The agencies involved starting with investigation and the persistent
efforts on the part of the Amherst Police Department, notably Lieutenant LeCorte, now retired, I believe. Captain Joseph Scioli, their efforts certainly contributed greatly to
the resolution of this case. The pursuit
of Mr. Kopp by the FBI, in particular Special Agent Joel Mercer is noted, and
of course the cooperation the FBI received from the State Police and in
particular the efforts of Investigator James Probst. And finally, of course once the apprehension was made, the prosecution by Mr. Marusak and his able team. That being
said, I suppose that this case has had other implications as have been
mentioned, not only by Mr. Marusak in his remarks
and Mr. Barket and certainly by yours, Mr. Kopp,
but I have some observations as well. It's clear that the action was premeditated. There is no doubt about that. It's inconceivable, however, to me that you did not expect that your actions would result in the death of Dr. Slepian. You made some comment here about why wouldn't I shoot for the head. As I recall the exhibits, you didn't have a view of his head through that window. Maybe if you did that's where the shot would have landed. I think also you fled in an effort to avoid taking responsibility for the actions. You have indicated that you didn't want to be caught, but once apprehended you employed every mechanism at your disposal to obfuscate first the process and then the truth. I think that if Mr. Marusak or someone else could respond to what you said they would have a lot to say. And frankly, I don't want to hear it. But I think that there is one comment that you made that almost demands a response and you somehow equated the action of Dr. Slepian with some racial issue. Bald accusations are easy to make. Unfortunately, he's not here to respond to them and that's your responsibility. I guess in spite of all your education and all your intelligence, Mr. Kopp, there is one thing you haven't learned and that's that in the pursuit of one's goal, your objective, that no matter how moral or just it may appear, does Not permit the infliction of violence on your adversary. What may appear righteous to you may appear immoral to someone else. And obviously, the reverse is true. I also believe that many who may support your beliefs do not support your methods. You have referred to that and so has Mr. Marusak. The bottom
line, I suspect, is that no civilized society can tolerate or excuse excesses
that are tantamount to anarchy or to terrorism. Mr. Barket, with regard to the comparison you made to the John Brown case, I will take my chances. It is the judgment of this Court, Mr. Kopp, that you be sentenced to an indeterminate sentence having a maximum of life imprisonment. The Court hereby imposes a minimum period of incarceration of twenty-five years. I am directing that you be delivered to the custody of the
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