Following is an interview with Satan by Christian Gallery News reporter Neal Horsley on 2/18/08.
| Horsley: | Satan, a question has puzzled me for some time, so let me get straight to the point. Do you consider yourself to be pro-life? |
| Satan: | (Amused.) Certainly. Yes. That's affirmative. |
| Horsley: | Hah! I thought so! Why are you pro-life? |
| Satan: | You want the short answer or the long answer? |
| Horsley: | The short answer. |
| Satan: | Okay, that's easy. I am pro-life because the pro-life movement has honored my position as god of this world and I would be a fool to refuse to support a movement that has never failed to support me. |
| Horsley: | I need to ask you for the long answer because the short answer is, well, weird to say the least. |
| Satan: | Okay, you know that I am god of this world, right? |
| Horsley: | I know that is what the Holy Bible says about you and I believe the Bible is true. But I confess I've wondered whether I really understood what the Bible was saying when it called you the god of this world. |
| Satan: | Well no wonder you have a hard time understanding why I'm pro-life. Okay, I'll unpack it for you. God is the one with the power to decide who lives and who dies. God rules life and death. Can you grasp that? Can you get your brain around that fact and say Amen? |
| Horsley: | (Long pause.) I see nothing in what you said to argue with. God is the one with the power to decide who lives and who dies. Amen. |
| Satan: | In this world, since life is, shall we say, a given, it is only the power to kill legally--to kill and get away with it--that determines who is god of this world. In other words, the god of this world is whoever has the power to kill legally. When the Bible says I am god of this world it is referring to my power to control who is killed. |
| Horsley: | Wait a minute. The Bible talks about another God, One who has power even over the god of this world. |
| Satan: | (Instantly enraged.) God damn that God! I damn that God! (Ruffled, regains control of his emotions.) I repent. I apologize. But I've got a reason to be upset. First He gave me control over this world, even went so far as to declare that I am god of this world. Then what did He do? Almost immediately He demonstrated that He had no intention whatsoever of letting me DO MY JOB! |
| Horsley: | Yes, I see the conflict you are talking about. |
| Satan: | (Pauses, regains his composure.) Well
with that conflict in view, perhaps you can understand why I am
pro-life. I am pro-life because
the pro-life movement has honored my position as god of this world. While
the pro-life movement has complained about my power to bring death to fetuses, they have
never, not even for a nanosecond, refused to honor me as god of this world,
never refused to grant me the power to decide who dies in
the
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| Horsley: | The Holy Bible says you are a liar and the father of all liars and I can see why it calls you that. It is a matter of historical fact that some pro-lifers have absolutely refused to "honor" your power to decide whether unborn babies die. They have even gone so far as to kill abortionists who were on the verge of killing unborn babies so that the babies would not die. |
| Satan: | (Sly look crosses Satan's face.) Let me see if I understand you. You are talking about men like Paul Hill or James Kopp or the others who exercised the power to kill abortionists? |
| Horsley: | Yes, that’s who I’m talking about. Those people interposed themselves to stop people from granting you the power to be the one who decides who dies. They fought you and your power to the death. |
| Satan: | (With an air of amused
condescension.) But those people were not pro-life, were they? As a
matter of fact, my fellow pro-lifers made
certain that everyone in the
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| Horsley: | Huh? |
| Satan: | Look at Paul Hill. Paul Hill not only killed--(Sarcastic) executed he called it--an abortionist, but he
actually did everything in his power to get enough
people to follow in his footsteps so that every abortionist in the USA would
either get killed or quit being an abortionist. Paul Hill was a terribly dangerous
enemy to me and to my access to the bodies of dead babies. If enough
people had actually followed his lead, legalized abortion would
have been destroyed in the
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| Horsley: | What do you mean when you say, "the pro-life movement came to my rescue." |
| Satan: | The pro-life movement was the reason
hardly anybody followed Paul Hill's strategy. The leaders of the pro-life
movement did everything
necessary to stop people from following Paul Hill. Everybody from the
Catholic priests who led the pro-lifers to the Protestant
priests like Dobson and Falwell and Robertson
and myriad others...oh name any pro-life leader and they did everything in their power to stop people from
following Paul Hill. One of the pro-life leaders of Operation Rescue even said he
would pull the switch to execute
Paul Hill with his own hand to prove how much pro-lifers renounced and rejected any identification with Paul Hill. With help like that, I did not have to
do anything to stop people from following Paul Hill: the pro-life movement did
it for me.
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| Horsley: | Are you saying Paul Hill could have arrested legalized abortion? |
| Satan: | I know you're not stupid. Why do
you ask a stupid question? Any moron can see that if enough abortionists
started getting killed,there
is a very good chance abortionists would decide to change occupations.
And without abortionists, it would be very hard to get most females to return to the coat hanger
method of providing me with carcasses of dead babies. It's obvious that
if enough people followed Paul Hill, mothers would have to stop killing their
babies and return to squeezing the little bastards out
alive. It was the
pro-life movement that stopped people from following Paul Hill. I owe my
position as god of this world today to the pro-life movement.
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| Horsley: | I doubt anybody can get their brain
around what you just said.
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| Satan: | Why not? For 35 years... (Satan stops abruptly.) Did you hear that? Thirty-five, count ‘em,
thirty-five years. For thirty-five years the pro-life movement has
claimed to be opposed to legalized abortion in the
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| Horsley: | Please explain that. |
| Satan: | Oh don't be stupid! Look at the
historical facts and see for yourself. Every time some person or some
group actually began to do things that had the power to abolish legalized
abortion, it was the pro-life leaders and the pro-life movement that intervened
to stop legalized abortion from being abolished.
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| Horsley: | You are saying it was the pro-life Christians
who stopped people from abolishing legalized abortion! That's a mind-boggling statement.
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| Satan: | Well boggle on! Because any idiot can see it's the
truth!
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| Horsley: | Why would you be willing to talk about
these things. Aren’t you giving away important
secrets? Won’t it make it harder for you
to keep the power to
kill unborn babies if people learn these things?
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| Satan: | (Laughs uproariously.) Who
is going to stop me? You? (Laughs uproariously.) I am telling you these things
because I deserve credit for what I did. Nobody is giving me credit. I run the pro-life movement,
yet nobody gives me any credit for it! Well, it's about time I got the credit I deserve! The pro-life movement would never have taken the path
it has taken if it was not for the fact that I am god of this world and I am the god of the pro-life
movement!
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| Horsley: | You think I'm going to be shocked by those
words? Well, I'm not. I'm not a pro-lifer. I'm
interviewing you to get these things on the
record because I'm doing my best to form a new movement, a movement of abortion
abolitionists committed to fighting you and your
evil power to the bloody death--bloody horrible death if that's what it takes.
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| Satan: | (Glares with utmost evil at the
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| Horsley: | You're right. I don't have that
power. But I know One who does. I know Him
for a fact. And I guarantee you this. I see no reason why He would deploy me against
you, why he would let me get this close to you, unless He intended to give me
the power to hurt you
bad, maybe even the power to stop your evil control of this nation.
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| Satan: | YOU HAVE NO POWER! You are nothing but a mule fucker! You are everything weak and impotent and meaningless and obscene and vile. The whole world knows you are nothing but a powerless JOKE! |
| Horsley: | Would it surprise you if the One, True God chose someone like that to show your evil ass who is actually God here on earth today? Huh? Would it surprise you? |
| Satan: | What did you say? (Sobers immediately.) Wellll, don't get me wrong. I don't have
anything against you personally. After all, you're only human. I don't see any
reason why we can't work something out. I've been able to reach an
accommodation with other, um, Christians
like you. I’m sure there’s something I
can provide you with, something that would give you what you want.
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| Horsley: | I don't think so because here’s what I want. I want nothing more than to be there and see my Lord Jesus Christ throw you in the lake of fire. I’ve been around this world for awhile now and I’ve realized that nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing you lose control of the USA. I have watched what you do on this earth and I hate you with a white hot hatred for it. I want nothing from you. I don't care what you do to me, I just want to fight you. I want to fight you until I don't have any breath left in me to fight you, you God damned devil. |
| Satan: | (Begins to rant.) You think that will do any good? You're still alone. You have no power! Nobody will support you. NOBODY! Everybody knows who you are! All good pro-lifers like myself hate you for exactly the same reason. You are a trouble maker exactly like Paul Hill. Instead of getting people to kill abortionists, you tried to frighten abortionists by your Nuremberg Files list where you exposed them to the fear that somebody would come and kill them. If the pro-life movement hadn't stepped up and worked with Planned Parenthood to get your list shut down, you might have been able to do what Paul Hill tried to do and do it legally without any abortionist being killed. That was the most evil idea imaginable! Then on top of that you started that AbortionCams thing where you put up thousands of pictures of people going to kill their babies. If the other pro-lifers like Alan Keyes had not helped me stop you and your "abortion abolitionist" friends, there is no telling what kind of deterrence you might have created. But me and my fellow pro-lifers stopped you because we know it is insane to do things that get millions of people mad at you. Face it, every pro-lifer knows you are insane, insane exactly like Paul Hill and the others like him. You think stopping legalized abortion is more important than your own stupid meaningless life. Here you have been given the easiest, most luxurious, most protected lifestyle in the recorded history of my world and you are willing to risk destroying it all just to stop people from legally killing unborn babies. You are patently insane. You are the embodiment of evil! And every pro-lifer on the planet is right to hate you just exactly like I hate you. (Pauses with an evil look against which all other evil looks is measured.) I'll tell you one thing. All us pro-lifers know about your (sarcastic) The Creator's Rights party. The Creator has no rights! I am the god of this world! The Creator gave me authority over this world! All us pro-lifers know that there is nothing more important than protecting our own personal peace and prosperity. Anybody who thinks differently is insane. Did you hear me INSANE! They should be institutionalized immediately! Immediately! For their own good. |
| Horsley: | You mean put people like me in a Gulag or something. |
| Satan: | EXACTLY! (Pauses, then darts a glance over his shoulder.) |
| Horsley: | I see. Well, thank you for the time and your candor in this interview. We'll see what comes next, won't we. |
| Satan: | What? You want to end it like this? Wait a minute. I'm not done yet. |
| Horsley: | If I have anything to do with it, you are. |